the Wayback on Wednesday: Don’t Hate Them Because They’re Beautiful

from October 30, 2006

So far I’ve finished the first seven books in J.D. Robb’s In Death series, as well as the short story that comes between books seven and nine. Obviously with three DIK’s so far, it’s clear I’m enjoying myself. One of the reasons I’m sure the series resonates for so many women – based on the results of our recent Top Ten Heroes mini-poll, is that readers, including myself, love Roarke.And one of the reasons I love Roarke as much as I do (he moved to number one on my hit parade, supplanting a hero who’d owned that slot for two years) is that he loves Eve as he does. I do find him slightly too good to be true in that their relationship through those first seven books is not quite a 50/50 proposition, but nonetheless they are perfectly matched. Roarke may not be the perfect hero, but he’s the perfect husband for Eve.

Something else about Roarke…he’s drop dead gorgeous. And something else…Eve isn’t. It’s true that when she’s cleaned up and hasn’t been hacking away at her hair and changes out of bloodied clothes, she is quite lovely, but just about the hottest scene in the series so far for me occurs in Ceremony in Death, when Eve reveals her insecurity to Roarke about her looks while they are together in the bathtub. (The scene also points to a theory I read long ago about men, that men consistently over-rate their girlfriends and wives in terms of attractiveness. The underlying reason, apparently, had less to do with the women and more to do with the men’s egos.)

“Most people figured you stepped wide of the mark with me.”

“Most people?”

She downed the rest of the wine, set the glass aside. “Sure. I get the drift when we’ve got time to make with some of those rich and high-toned business associates of yours. Can’t blame them for wondering what came over you. I’m not big, beautiful, or exotic.”

“No, you’re not. Slim, lovely, strong. It’s a wonder I looked twice.”

She felt ridiculous and flustered. He could do that to her just by the way he looked at her. “I’m not fishing,” she muttered.

“And it surprises me that you’d give a damn what any of my associates thought of either one of us.”

“I don’t.” Damn it, she’d stepped right in it. “I was just making an observation. The wine’s got my tongue running away with me.”

“You annoy me, Eve.” His voice was dangerously cool. A warning she recognized. “Criticizing my taste.”

“Forget it.” She dunked again, surfaced like a shot when his hands clamped down over her waist. “Hey, what are you doing? Trying to drown me?” She blinked water out of her eyes and saw that his were indeed annoyed. “Listen–”

“No, you listen. Or better yet.” He crushed his mouth to hers, hot, hungry, hurried. It made the top of her head lift off and spin. “Well just move to the third part of our program a little early,” he said when he let her suck in a gulp of air. “And I’ll show you why I’m precisely on the mark with you, Lieutenant. Precisely. I don’t make mistakes.”

She scowled at him even as the blood hummed under her skin. “That arrogant routine doesn’t work for me. I said it was the wine.”

“You won’t blame what I can do to you on the wine,” he promised…

Although I have no way of knowing whether or not Robb had Gone with the Wind in mind when she wrote this scene, I immediately thought of Rhett and Scarlett’s encounter after she returns from Ashley’s birthday party, not only because of the consumption of alcohol and subsequent ravishment, but also because Rhett understood Scarlett for who and what she was, and loved her regardless. I’m certainly not comparing Scarlett and Eve, although isn’t it interesting that the first line of Mitchell’s book is: “Scarlett O’Hara was not beautiful, but men seldom realized it when caught by her charm as the Tarleton twins were.”?

But, back to Roarke, and to some extent, Rhett (and Clark Gable), because this isn’t all about Eve. Would we love them if they looked like Andy Sipowicz from TV’s NYPD Blue…or character actor Vincent Schiavelli? It’s true that lots of women found Sipowicz sexy, but if Roarke looked like him, would Eve – and us – react to him as we do?

Robin hit a nerve last month with her ATBF on fat women in romance. When heroines in romance novels aren’t beautiful, they are attractive, or plump, or perhaps plain. But ugly? Just as very fat women are not a staple in romance novels – although apparently more common in romances targeted at African American women – truly ugly, hair-coming-out-of-a-mole ugly is not the type of heroine we read in romance novels. Or hero. Do we want to?

Over the years there have been a multitude of discussions about how handsome and/or beautiful most romance heroes and heroines are. And as a result of each of these discussions, readers invariably are quite vocal in clamoring for a bit more reality, just as we clamor for a bit more reality in our historical romances between romances studded with members of the nobility rather than the common man, and the rich or super-rich as opposed to middle class.

After we posted the results in our Top Ten Heroes and Top Ten Heroines mini-polls earlier in the month, I had what I thought was a brilliant idea: Create a table of the top ten heroes and heroines with categories for beauty, wealth, and status. My point was to see whether or not we are only paying lip service to the idea of reality in romance, and also do ask if we have a different set of standards for our heroes and heroines. It was all starting to come together until Rachel Potter happened to mention that my testing methodology wasn’t altogether sound in that since beautiful and wealthy heroes and heroines are the norm, what exactly was my point? Damn logic!

 

Top Ten Heroes and Heroines (in ranked order)
#
Hero
Beauty
Wealth
Status
Heroine
Beauty
Wealth
Status
1
Roarke
X
X
X
Eve Dallas
2
Jamie Fraser
X
Jessica Trent
X
X
3
Sebastian Ballister, Marquess of Dain
X
 X
Penelope Featherington
X
X
4
Derek Craven
X
Elizabeth Bennet
 X
5
Darcy
X
X
X
Claire Randall
6
Rupert Carsington
X
X
Sara Fielding
7
Harry Braxton
X
 X
 X
Blair Mallory
X
 X
8
Matthew Farrell
X
X
X
Desdemona Carlisle
X
X
9
Zsadist
X
X
Daphne Pembroke
X
 X
10
Bey Malloren, Marquess of Rothgar
X
X
X
Minerva Dobbs
“Status” category is much easier to define in historical settings…all it really takes is a title, even if the hero is a black sheep

 

Still, it wasn’t an altogether wasted effort. I think half my theory is proven. Well over half of the top ten heroes are beautiful, wealthy, and/or have status in society while on the heroine’s side of the table, no more than half are beautiful, and fewer than half are wealthy or have status in society. There is a double standard in romance, and it makes eminent sense: the fantasy works because as women, we are not as a general rule the most beautiful, the richest, or at the highest ranks of society ourselves. Pretty elemental stuff, I know, but it’s interesting to see the proof in black and white.

Something else…many of our favorite heroines may not be beautiful, but in the eyes of their heroes, they either are, or become so. I’ve finally read Lisa Kleypas’ Dreaming of You, and the heroine is first described as being an average sort of pretty. While Derek feels a more or less immediate lust for Sara, she becomes more and more beautiful to him as the book progresses. Yes, the cap comes off, the clothing improves, and her natural prettiness is revealed to the world at large, but to Derek, Sara becomes a goddess of beauty.

All the heroes in Jaid Black’s SF/Romantica Trek Mi Q’an series are stunningly handsome, and while some of their Earth-born heroines are attractive, each has a quality that makes her drop-dead gorgeous or all-the-blood-out-of-the-brain-at-all-times sexy to her hero. It’s either pale skin, freckles, her scent, or in the case of Dak, the dark skin of Geris, the African American woman who is his Sacred Mate (there’s a great double entendre in the story when this blond hunk of a man tells Geris, “Once you go Dak, you never go back.”) Probably the most plain of these heroines is Giselle from No Mercy, but her freckles are so revered (a goddess in the Trek pantheon was freckled) that she brings back her Sacred Mate from near-devolution…and saves her own life and that of their child by virtue of those same freckles.

Just as it’s clear to me why heroines need not be beautiful or rich or at the highest levels of society, it’s equally clear why more heroes fulfill these same criterion. It’s one thing to love that balding hero every so often, but how many of the books you’ve loved would need to be entirely re-written if their heroes weren’t handsome, rich, or titled? These men may be more than their looks or bank books, but their storylines often revolve – to some extent – around those attributes. Not only would we not react to Roarke as we do if he were not the entire gorgeous, bazillionaire package, much of his arrogance would be unacceptable and unbelievable if he looked like Andy Sipowizc.

Not only are many romances written around the hero’s appearance and standing in society, there’s an entire sub-set of romances featuring heroes who have lost either their looks – generally through war or an accident such as a fire – or their wealth or status, but in these books too, their storylines revolve around what they lost, and how they were able to recover from those losses through the love of their heroines. While heroes scarred emotionally in war make a powerful statement, physically scarred heroes like Jack Carstairs in Anne Gracie’s Gallant Waif and Adrian Montfort in Lynsay Sand’s Love Is Blind returned from serving their country only to suffer broken engagements from women they thought they loved, women who couldn’t handle their new “ugliness”.

Scarred heroes are sure to provide an angst-fest for readers, even if only for a while…Jane Eyre, anyone? Oftentimes a scarred hero’s heroine totally dismisses his flaw in a way he can’t imagine. Setting aside the over-used instance of a heroine who lovingly kisses the scar to illustrate that she doesn’t find it ugly, it’s hard to determine just how bad many of these scars are. In Love Is Blind, for instance, it seems that while Adrian’s scar was initially fairly horrific, over time it faded so much as to barely be an issue to everyone but him. Many a hero has felt totally unlovable because of a scar. When he finally talks about it with his lady love he discovers she barely sees it at all…in much the same way as many men simply don’t see that ten pounds most of us would like to lose.

Seven of the ten heroes in our top ten were beautiful. Another two – Derek Craven and Zsadist – were scarred, the former by the henchmen of a vindictive ex-lover and the latter by an evil villainess. I doubt Derek would have been described as the most handsome of men prior to his slashing, but as powerful, dark-haired, and with penetrating green eyes. Only Sebastian Ballister was not attractive in the traditional sense, and while it seems clear that he was not a beautiful baby, I think perhaps he “grew into” his looks more than he believed; after all, Jessica thinks he’s the sexiest thing on two legs.

There’s a moral aspect of romance novel scarring that intrigues me. Many a romance novel hero was scarred fighting a war or rescuing their family from a fire. Zsadist certainly didn’t “deserve” it, and though the husband of the nutcase who arranged for Derek’s slashing believes he had it coming, there is a sort of moral absoluteness to the scarring of most romance heroes. They were made “ugly” while doing a “good thing” rather than simply being born “ugly”. More weight is given to this type of “moral ugliness” because of the rejection these men suffer from the same society that once adored them.

When I mentioned to my family the theme of this column, my daughter had an interesting comment when I said that readers decry the overwhelming abundance of beauty in romance. She said, “People don’t want to seem superficial” – and I think to an extent, she’s got it right. Superficial is “wrong”, after all, as is the admission that we might like to read a romance because the love scenes are good. I’ve heard readers, after all, compare certain romance authors to some of the greats in fiction, and I can’t help but think they do this because to admit they liked their books for less exalted reasons is something they couldn’t accept in themselves…or felt other would not accept in them.

I’ll put it right out there…I’m often superficial when it comes to reading romance if enjoying great-looking heroes is superficial. Yes, I enjoy a beauty and the beast story as much as the next person, and I too have fallen in love with heroes who weren’t gorgeous, rich, a CEO or in the ton, but given that I read romance for entertainment and escapism, why not escape with a guy like Roarke?

Consider your favorite romances and the looks, wealth, or status of the hero and/or heroine. Could you have eliminated those factors without changing the romance?

What are your favorite romances featuring a hero and/or heroine who was not handsome/beautiful, wealthy, or had status? Were those factors integral to the storyline?

Do you prefer books where the hero is gorgeous? If so, why?

What do you think of stories where there is a disparity of some degree between the looks of the hero and the heroine? Do you enjoy them or not, and why?

Are you a fan of “Beauty and the Beast” heroes? What draws you to that type of story? Or if you hate them, what do you dislike about them? Does your dislike relate to the appearance of the hero, or more to the plot these stories often have?

When you read a story with a disfigured hero, how do you visualize the disfigurement? Does it ever get in the way of your image of the hero, or of your enjoyment of the story?

What are your least and most liked cliches regarding descriptions of looks, status, or wealth in a romance?

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LIeselotte
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06/12/2020 2:17 am

I have a theory that our views (literally) have evolved a lot. Into an obsession with looks, pushed by the men we see onscreen. And those looks are a certain type of sleek and a certain type of body detail that is only sustainable with constant body obsession such as dedicated gym sessions and hair removal etc.
 
The great cinema starts of 1940 or so would not become so important today, I would suppose, because the did not have the “perfect beauty” we want of men onscreen today.
For some strange reason, I can only think of European men such as Jean Paul Belmondo, or Marcello Mastroianni, who IMO would not make the cut if they started today. But I doubt that even Sean Connery would become the superstar in today’s expectations of beauty.
 
And that a lot of it all flows from that.
 
Would that make any sense or am I on a strange track?
 
 
 

Elaine S
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06/12/2020 2:46 am

Interesting interpretation and possibly very true. The impact of widespread cinema in the late 1930s and 40s meant for the first time people could have their fantasies shown to them on a cinema screen. Look at the cult around Rudolf Valentino or Mary Pickford even earlier than that. You could sit in a cinema watch your innermost fantasy played out before you while as the observer you could do it in privacy and comfort whilst enjoying your popcorn. Today we watch Outlander or Poldark in the even closer privacy of our living rooms at home and salivate over the beauty of the actors portraying Jamie and Claire, Ross and Demelza. None of them will ever step down from the cinema or TV screen and join us for a cuppa or glass of merlot, sadly!!

Usha
Usha
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06/11/2020 8:49 pm

Yes, beauty, wealth, status at first glance. I don’t know, if any of them would make this top list, if they did not represent our political or social values.

Mark
Mark
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06/11/2020 7:53 pm

Several of my most-reread books fit this discussion.
27 A Rake’s Reform (r) Holbrook, Cindy – hero much higher beauty/wealth/status
24 Ravished (r) Quick, Amanda – hero is beast (but in reputation, not scars), heroine is plain
21 The Mad Miss Mathley (r) Martin, Michelle – hero much higher beauty/wealth/status
18 Lord Sayer’s Ghost (r) Holbrook, Cindy – hero much higher beauty/wealth/status
 

Elaine S
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06/11/2020 10:07 am

 
 
This is such an interesting topic to mull over and I had to sleep on it before posting so here goes. I have tried to answer each of the 7 questions in order as follows:
 
1. Probably not as these are the hangers on which the story is hung and if well written, each of these factors will be integral and imperative to the narrative.
 
2. Many of Carla Kelly’s “beta heroes” are not handsome, are often working/middle class and have no status outside of their military rank. I like heroes that earn their way and she handles them very well.
 
3. It depends. Sometimes it is lovely and something so outside of our normal experience that it is a fun fantasy to experience and wallow in. Of course, “gorgeous” is the ultimate chimera for us all but who can’t help but enjoy it in fiction?
 
4. I do enjoy this disparity sometimes as, really, most of us are just average looking and the concept of being adored by a lover whose looks are so extraordinarily wonderful makes us think that all things are possible, even when we know they are not!
 
5. I love them, always have, since I was read the fairy tale by my mother. I think it may be the challenge of convincing an otherwise lovely but insecure person that despite any physical flaws they are wonderful and worthy of your adoration. That’s very satisfying!
 
6. I’ve worked in a medical (orthopaedic) environment in the past and have seen serious injuries. I am pretty realistic about what a major trauma looks like but the courage of so many of those patients and their hard work to recover was wholly admirable. With military heroes, you honour them for their service and that becomes bound up in the love you will feel for them. I have never found a disability or disfigurement to be loathsome or detracting.
 
7. Least liked of looks, status wealth: tattoos; CEO of daddy’s firm; ill-gotten wealth.  Most liked of looks, status, wealth: kind, smiling eyes; a sudden and unexpected inheritance of a title when abroad on military duty (in HRs); sharing of wealth – cf Georgette Heyer’s The Nonesuch 
 
And, FINALLY!!! “given that I read romance for entertainment and escapism, why not escape with a guy like Roarke?” Absolutely, totally agree with that!!

Susan/DC
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06/10/2020 10:53 pm

One of my favorite books of this sort is Anne Gracie’s “The Perfect Rake”. Prudence is the oldest Merridew sister and the only one who is not beautiful when judged by Society’s standards, but when Gideon, the rake of the title, meets and falls in love with her, he can’t understand why others don’t think she is beautiful too. To him she is lovely, and his bewilderment that the world doesn’t share his opinion is charming and romantic.

I think I like when the handsome hero falls in love with the not beautiful heroine precisely because it is a fairy tale ending. In Real Life all too often we see the older but rich/powerful man with the much younger trophy wife. The first wife, married when he was young and not so rich nor so powerful, fulfilled his dynastic ambitions and was then discarded when she aged. The second wife seems to have been chosen based on her ability to turn heads and make other men jealous, chosen to stoke his ego rather than for who she is. That’s why it’s so comforting to read books where the heroine’s inner beauty is what the hero sees, and it makes her all that much more valuable and lovable in his eyes.

As to Dabney’s comment that in animals attractiveness plays a big part in mate selection, let us not forget that it is the female who chooses and the male who needs to impress. Darwin evidently wrote a lot about female power to choose her mate, but that didn’t appeal to Victorian concepts of male/female relationships so was not discussed much when his work was published.

Blackjack
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Reply to  Susan/DC
06/10/2020 11:38 pm

You are so right on the nose about Victorians eliding Darwin’s analysis of female power in nature. I own horses and am reminded daily that horse herds are matriarchal and it’s the boys who fall in line. Kind of puts a dent in essentialist arguments that females are weaker and naturally inferior.

Lil
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06/10/2020 8:56 pm

Okay, I have to confess that I pay virtually no attention to the physical descriptions provided by the author of the characters in books I read. I tend to recreate them in my mind according to the way I want them to look.
And I have a sneaky suspicion that the actor who plays Jamie has lot to do with the love that gets sent his way.

LeeF
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Reply to  Lil
06/10/2020 9:45 pm

One of the reasons I have never watched the “Outlander” series is that MY Jamie doesn’t look like the actor. Like you, I envision the characters as I read or listen. Don’t want my Outlander visions disrupted by television. :-)

Blackjack
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06/10/2020 3:54 pm

My personal preference is that the main characters find each other attractive, and if that is conveyed well, the external appearance matters little because we view characters through the point of view of the protagonists. Beauty is always subjective in the end.

Elizabeth Kingston’s _The King’s Man_ has one of the very best examinations of physical beauty in a romance that I’ve read. The hero, Ranulf, is described as perfect-looking throughout the book by everyone. From my Goodreads review of it I noted that the heroine is an enigma – while outright ugly to the hero early in their acquaintance, she herself feels homely, awkward, and “unwomanly,” Her perception of her external charms is shaped by her belief that she is not feminine enough in her world. Ranulf first sees her in the midst of a fever when she is clearly keeping him alive. She is beautiful to him then and her features appear soft and unfocused and “feminine.” His next encounter with her is during their fight scene. When he realizes he is fighting her, the “angel of the hearth,” rather than a man, and especially when he realizes she is beating him, Gwenllian is described as ugly and with features all out of proportion. Later though, when he gives in to his inexplicable desire to kiss her, she becomes an object of desire and he notes her beautiful eyes and feminine eyelashes. The sexual scenes in the book defy easy description too and are more impressionistic than realistic, conveying the unfiltered passion these two characters feel for each other. Once Ranulf understands he is in love with her, Gwenllian is described as the most beautiful woman he has ever seen. I know lots of readers who gave up on this book because it centers an ugly heroine, but I think they are missing the point of this issue in the book. I have to think hard to find a romance that has made it clearer that love is much more than attraction to the outside facade of a person or that outside appearance is a fixed reality,

nblibgirl
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Reply to  Blackjack
06/10/2020 6:29 pm

I’ve been trying to figure out how to respond to this post. I agree with Blackjack! IMHO, there is too much emphasis on what characters look like in all forms of media, particularly TV, movies, etc. but also romances. Riffing on the example from the post above, what makes Roark so swoony is his ability to really “see” and “get” Dallas just as she is. Any hero who can do that, and then proceed to make life better with/for his partner, is “beautiful” in my eyes. The fact that Roark is uber wealthy, powerful, beautiful in the classic sense is (again, IMHO) a metaphor for the men in real life who STRIVE to do the same for the real women they love. But words matter! And there is too much objectification of both men and women in our culture (as well as unrealistic depictions of sex). We do a disservice, particularly to kids/teens/NAs – much less adults – when we continue pounding away at the idea that only “beautiful” (and wealthy and powerful) people deserve love/happiness. Give me visuals of realistic people any day!

Dabney Grinnan
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Reply to  nblibgirl
06/10/2020 7:29 pm

I think the whole point of romance is that LOVE IS FOR EVERYONE.
 
That said, fiction is routinely aspirational and every culture everywhere reveres stories of people that are somehow more than we average people are. I don’t think it’s really just about beauty but more about how we are drawn to stories of ideals. That doesn’t mean in our own lives that we can’t love anyone who isn’t an ideal–we love people who aren’t brilliant, wealthy, thin, gorgeous, athletic, etc….

nblibgirl
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Reply to  Dabney Grinnan
06/11/2020 5:06 pm

“I think the whole point of romance is that LOVE IS FOR EVERYONE.”

Agree! But my point is that – as much fun as Roark’s literal character is (great looking, fabulously wealthy, incredibly powerful) – too many people have not been represented for far too long. And readers (especially our kids) deserve to be represented – just as they are – more than just occasionally. Average looking, ordinary jobs, no particular power/super-strengths. Just decent people, doing good work, striving to make the lives of the people around them better, and falling in love in the process. It needs to be on the page.

And it doesn’t have to be grim or boring. Michelle Diener’s Class 5 series is that in sci/fi. Alexis Hall’s Waiting for the Flood in contemporary short story. Robyn Carr’s Virgin River series in small towns (as is Serena Bell’s Sleepover and Penny Reid’s Beard Science). Patricia Brigg’s alpha and omega series in fantasy. And so on.

Dabney Grinnan
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Reply to  nblibgirl
06/11/2020 5:18 pm

I agree that romance needs to represent far more different kinds of leads. But I do still think that many readers want those working class men, those small town firemen, those kindergarten teachers to be like those of Lake Wobegon where “the women are strong, all the men are good-looking, and all the children are above average.”
 

Blackjack
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Reply to  nblibgirl
06/10/2020 10:32 pm

– Yes, and I think the Dallas/Roarke connection is a kind of version of the Gwenllian/Ranulf relationship. Roarke could have nearly any woman given his many attributes, but it’s his love for Eve that illuminates Eve for readers and makes Roarke more appealing and complex rather than a glossy facade of perfection. You’re right too that objectification of physicality plagues our culture and our romance novels. It’s a trait I try to avoid in my own reading and why I really value authors who deconstruct these myths.

Nan De Plume
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06/10/2020 11:01 am

Interesting discussion you’ve revived. Thanks!
 
I too have noticed the double standard in romance that the heroine is allowed to be a bit of an ugly duckling and the hero is not- unless of course he is battle-scarred as this makes him heroic and a badass. Then, of course, there always has to be that beautiful heroine who thinks she’s plain so she doesn’t seem to vain to the audience.
 
Interestingly, there is a similar double standard in erotica. There is an entire official category or niche devoted to plus size women called “BBW,” which stands for “big beautiful woman.” There is no BBM, “big beautiful men” category, on KDP.
 
I think a lot of this comes down to the target audience of romance novels, as you’ve said. A lot of women want to read about that dashing hunk falling for the plain lady as a kind of wish fulfillment. But as we’ve discussed in many recent AAR topics, it would be nice to see a wider range of heroes. Like many, I get tired of practically every darn hero I read about being the tallest man in the room, the most muscular, and the most chiseled. And frankly, that’s not my type. Give me more androgynous intellectuals or something instead of these dukes/nobles who inexplicably have six packs when they’ve never done anything more strenuous than going on the occasional fox hunt.

Chrisreader
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Reply to  Nan De Plume
06/10/2020 12:56 pm

I agree it’s definitely wish fulfillment having the hero love the womanly curves and not flat stomach of the heroine while she ogles his cut abs and bulging biceps. I enjoy it at the same time I acknowledge my hypocrisy.
 
Two authors who write heroes that aren’t the tallest, most powerful, handsome etc are Carla Kelly and Jayne Ann Krentz. I enjoy them both but a lot of Carla Kelly’s are really special. She can make a poor, not incredibly handsome but kind hero seem like the most desirable man in the world. I’ve been rereading her books lately and am always struck how strong she makes a “beta” hero.

Chrisreader
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06/10/2020 10:36 am

Wow! So much to say on this subject. I have some quibbles on the chart above. First Claire from Outlander is supposed to be very attractive. Jamie talks about how lovely he finds her and it’s made very clear that he’s not the only guy who thinks she’s a beautiful woman.
 
Derek Craven is definitely described as a good looking man. He made a lot of his money as a male escort or whatever the 19th century term for that is (Along with blackmail and gambling). He isn’t perfect looking but it’s made clear he’s an attractive, but not pretty guy. Sara Fielding is like the secretary in those old movies where she takes off her glasses and the guy says “Miss so and so, you’re beautiful!” She’s dowdied up in her lace cap and glasses but when she gets her makeover she has a whole gambling den of men falling for her.
 
One trope I always fall for is the one partner being less beautiful than the other but the gorgeous one loving them and thinking they are beautiful. But when I read the versions where it’s the female who is more plain and she gets the conventionally gorgeous “hunk” I always wonder if I am being a hypocrite in my enjoyment. In real life when I see a guy who is way older, not attractive but with a lot of money and power and a much younger, glossy “trophy wife” I mentally judge them. I get it, but I still mentally put on my white wig and judge. Yet when I read certain stories it can seem like a vindication when the plain Jane gets the “prize”. If the hero shouldn’t care that she isn’t a beauty Queen then why should she or I care if he’s gorgeous? Shouldn’t we both be above that too? I’m definitely not.
 
In real life I have a tendency to think really attractive men are probably going to be conceited or spoiled (which is also not fair) but on the page, in the right novels I am willing to suspend belief.

Reader
Reader
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06/10/2020 10:05 am

Which book is Matthew Farrell from?

beth
beth
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Reply to  Reader
06/10/2020 11:43 am

i was wondering this too!

Chrisreader
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Reply to  Reader
06/10/2020 12:47 pm

As You Desire by Connie Brockway ( I had to Google it)

Chrisreader
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Reply to  Chrisreader
06/10/2020 12:51 pm

Oops he’s from Paradise by McNaught. It’s Desdemona who is from As You Desire. I think they are there because they were both #8 on polls of favorite heroes and favorite heroines. I assumed they went together.

Dabney Grinnan
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06/10/2020 8:20 am

In all other animals, attractiveness plays a big part in mate selection and reproductive capability. I don’t think humans are any different. We are hard coded to respond positively to beauty. That doesn’t mean that’s all that matters to us. But I’ve never understood the insistence that it’s not innate in our species to admire the babes and the hunks.