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“Men and women can’t be friends…” or can they?

In Mary Balogh’s 1997 Trad. Regency The Last Waltz, Gerard Percy is living and working in Canada when he learned that he has unexpectedly inherited an earldom. He returns to host a Christmas party at his new estate, to which he invites his Canadian friends, brother and sister Andrew and Jeanette Campbell.

About halfway through the book, Gerard suggests that he and Jeanette might marry, because at least they get along. She turns him down:

“And yet,” he said, “you are one of the dearest friends I have ever had, Jeanette, man or woman.”

“You need more than friendship in your life’s partner,” she said. “… One day, I am going to share the sort of love with a man that poets write of.” She smiled impishly.

“I envy him,” he said.

“No, you do not,” she said. “You need only my friendship, Gerard, as I need yours.”

While Gerard kept moving and married the heroine, Christina, that little conversation stopped me cold. I could not, off the top of my head, think of another m/f romance novel where the hero has a deep, storied friendship with a woman. Sisters, yes; sisters-in-law, sure; friends who go on to become the heroine, yes; platonic female friends, no.

I wonder about this, because in real life, one of the absolute best signs (is the opposite of ‘red flag’ a ‘green flag?’) in a guy is his ability to be friends with a woman. Friends are fully realized humans who require emotional give and take. If a man can’t put women into that category, he’s not ready to be a hero.

Is it that a real female friend might read like a rival? Jeannette is, after all, a potential wife in place of the heroine. But heroines get clichéd ‘gay best friends’ all the time. I think I may have read a hero with a lesbian friend (or partner? They might have been law enforcement) once, but nothing like the passels of gay besties our heroines have. And authors could always work around rivalry by making the heroes friends with married women, but that almost always seems to happen via his friends or brothers, who were the heroes of a previous book.

I said that I couldn’t think of a single other book with this feature, which seemed bizarre, so I went and searched my keeper shelves to see if specific titles might jog my memory. I did come up with a few, although many of them aren’t exactly what I’m looking for.

Carla Kelly’s The Lady’s Companion features a hero, the bailiff of an estate, who is as much of a friend as possible given class and employment lines to the lady of the estate, who is elderly and in poor health. This isn’t quite the same as being able to have a friendship with a woman who could have been a lover, but it’s a wonderful relationship.

In Linnea Sinclair’s Dock Five series, the heroine, Chas Bergren, is on good friendly terms with her ex-husband Philip Guthrie. Not exactly the same as a male-female friendship without sex ever, but it definitely made me like both of them better than characters who loathe their evil exes.

There are a number of series where the heroes have female teammates – Nalini Singh’s Psy-Changeling stories, Bec McMaster’s London Steampunk series, and Joanna Bourne’s Spymasters books, to name but a few. While I appreciate the respect and loyalty they usually show each other, the characters rarely have direct one-on-one emotional intimacy except to scold each other about being clueless in courting someone else.

Miles Vorkosigan in Lois McMaster Bujold’s Vorkosigan Saga is friends with a girl from his childhood, and also remains on good friendly terms with his ex-girlfriends.

The one perfect match I found was Jeffe Kennedy’s The Orchid Throne. This book’s hero, Con, has a long-standing friendship with fellow warrior and survivor of mine servitude Sondra. The two are respectful, supportive, and understanding, and have real emotional relationship with each other. So there is another one of these magic creatures out there. And I like them, and I’d like to read more!

So can anybody recommend to me other m/f romances where the hero has actual female friends? Also, can people who are more versed than I am in m/m romance pitch in – do friendships for these heroes break down along gender lines? What about f/f romances and male friends? Or romances with nonbinary characters?

~ Caroline Russomanno

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oceanjasper
oceanjasper
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06/16/2020 7:44 pm

I’ve read plenty of m/m romances in which a hero has a platonic friendship with either a woman or a straight man.

Nan De Plume
Nan De Plume
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06/16/2020 4:32 pm

I can think of an example that totally ruined a potential m/f friendship in a Victorian era Harlequin Historical I read recently entitled “Their Inconvenient Marriage” by Sophia James. Near the beginning of the story, the heroine has an older male friend who’s a bit of an eccentric bachelor, but for reasons beyond my understanding…

Spoiler!
He loses his mind and becomes the villain in the last ten percent of the book, kidnapping the heroine’s younger sister followed by the heroine.

The plot twist felt cheap and unnecessary- a forced climax to the story, if you will. And frankly, it was quite disappointing.

I did think that Mr. Delacorte, the bachelor trying to make himself more of a gentleman in Lady Derring Takes a Lover and its sequel Angel in a Devil’s Arms, was a rather nice acquaintance as one of the tenants in the heroines’ boarding house.

Still reading
Still reading
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06/16/2020 2:56 am

Susan Napier wrote a Harlequin, which was published in the U.S. as a Presents, called Fortune’s Mistress. Maggie and Finn are friends from childhood who enter into a paper marriage for family and corporate reasons. When Finn and then Maggie fall in love outside the marriage, complications ensue. The relationship between the friends has a solid backstory and worked for me.
 
This book could have easily been scripted to have a BFF-fall-in-love plot, so I found the book more interesting because it took two characters with mutual appreciation and proximity and sent them in directions I did not expect.

CarolineAAR
CarolineAAR
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Reply to  Still reading
06/16/2020 9:11 am

I read and enjoyed a Napier a few years back. I’ll see if I can hunt this down – it sounds very interesting!

Blackjack
Blackjack
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Reply to  Still reading
06/16/2020 5:31 pm

Years ago when I was first starting to read romances again, I somehow found a HR Susan Napier book, probably at my mom’s house, picked it up and read it and was reminded of how much I loved romances growing up.

Cady
Cady
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06/15/2020 1:43 pm

What about Mary Balogh’s Survivor Club, one of the members was a woman who I believe become a good friend to all of the members. I don’t think she ever became involved with any of them.

Kass
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Reply to  Cady
06/16/2020 9:08 am

That is a wonderful series from Mary Balogh. An ode to friendship besides each romance.

And indeed Imogen, Lady Barclay, is never involved with any of the Survivor’s friends. The book that focus on her (Only a Kiss) is one of my favourites from Ms. Balogh.

Connie
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Reply to  Cady
06/16/2020 10:41 pm

As I am now rereading and loving the Survivor Series, I was just about to post this! Imogene, one of the Survivors and the only woman becomes dear friends with the other six but was not romantically involved.

Chrisreader
Chrisreader
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06/15/2020 11:13 am

I think the Duke of Malloryn and Gemma have a genuine friendship in Dukes are Forever and stretching back in the preceding novels by Bec McMaster.
 
In Molly Harpers’ Half Moon Hollow Vampire novels the heroine Jane Jameson’s best friend is Zeb and has been her entire life. They constantly deal with the fact that his family and most everyone else has wanted them to be a romantic pairing despite having zero attraction for each other. They remain best friends as the series continue and they both marry other people, have a family etc. it’s very nice.

Dabney Grinnan
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Reply to  Chrisreader
06/15/2020 11:45 am

I think fantasy has more examples of this which really says something.

Chrisreader
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Reply to  Dabney Grinnan
06/16/2020 2:58 pm

It may be that because they involve a lot of teams it lends itself to the story easier? I think in a historical setting if the author is being accurate, it’s harder to find ways for single men and women tp forge a really close friendship unless they are related.

beth
beth
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06/15/2020 9:18 am

the only friendship I can think of is Lily Lawson and Derek Craven from Lisa Kleypas’ Then Came You and Dreaming of You.

Blackjack
Blackjack
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Reply to  beth
06/15/2020 6:29 pm

That’s a good one!

Blackjack
Blackjack
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06/15/2020 8:09 am

I’ll give this more thought but off the top of my head, Mhairi McFarlane’s recent book, If I Never Met You, features a hero whose fabulous relationship with an unlikely childhood female friend causes the heroine to fall in love with him when she sees them hanging out together. Up to that moment in the book the heroine had viewed the hero as ridiculously and annoyingly perfect and smug, but his best friend seems goofy, humble, kind, a bit overweight, and just strikes the heroine as such an unlikely person to be Mr. Perfect’s bestie. It stops the heroine in her tracks and forces her to look more closely at him and start to see him in a new light. It’s really well done! I love this book and it will end up as one my favorites of the year. There is something so wonderful about men who are truly good friends with women.

CarolineAAR
CarolineAAR
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Reply to  Blackjack
06/15/2020 2:51 pm

This sounds like something I’d enjoy, except in real life, I married the goofy, humble, kind, overweight best friend :)

Blackjack
Blackjack
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Reply to  CarolineAAR
06/15/2020 6:28 pm

Ha! :) If you missed Maggie’s review of _If I Never Met You_ here at AAR a little while back, you should read it. I had been hearing buzz for a while about McFarlane but Maggie’s review convinced me to drop everything and read it right away.

Maggie Boyd
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Reply to  Blackjack
06/16/2020 6:44 am

Aw, thank you so much! So glad the review worked for you.

Em Wittmann
Em Wittmann
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Reply to  Blackjack
06/15/2020 9:26 pm

This is an excellent example!

Keira Soleore
Keira Soleore
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Reply to  Blackjack
06/16/2020 12:17 am

This is a book I’ve been meaning to read and now you’ve cinched the deal.

Blackjack
Blackjack
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Reply to  Keira Soleore
06/16/2020 12:56 am

Yay, hope you like it!

Ani
Ani
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06/15/2020 7:45 am

Two of Julie James’s books: In About That Night, the heroine befriends a hot straight male co-worker. She might have considered dating for all of five seconds but maybe not even that; instead she was planning to set him up with her BFF, but instead the BFF meets someone else first. The co-worker then gets his own book, Love Irresistibly, in which iirc we find out that they’ve stayed pals and still get coffee.
 
The heroine of Love Irresistibly herself has a straight male best friend who then also later got his own book, Suddenly One Summer. These two have been BFFs since they were kids, no brothers involved, never tried dating. I honestly love this friendship. James can be kind of problematic, but what she does well, she does very well, and she consistently does a very good job depicting people with realistic friendships.
 

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CarolineAAR
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Reply to  Ani
06/15/2020 2:58 pm

I read those but from the library, so I didn’t see them on my shelf. Thanks for the reminder!