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Jill Sorenson Interviews Suzanne Brockmann, Part II – and a Giveaway!

They’re back! Today Suzanne Brockmann and Jill Sorenson have more to say about writing, diversity, privilege and more. If you missed Part I, you can find that here. And – after the interview, you will find details for a Sorenson/Brockmann giveaway to enter. – Lynn

(JS) I appreciate the fact that you write characters of color and embrace diversity. I live in the San Diego area, near Camp Pendleton, and it’s a very diverse community. It’s jarring for me to read a military romance (or a football romance, for another example) without characters of color. We live in an increasingly multicultural society and I want my books to reflect that.

(SB) Oh, I’m so with you, there! I, too, have a house outside of Boston, in a town that is extremely multicultural. I believe that diversity is what makes America great. We started out as a melting pot, and we still very much are.

(JS) White, straight authors are sometimes said to be appropriating other cultures and identities not their own. How do you respond to this criticism? Do you feel that you’ve been praised more than authors of color and GLBT authors?

(SB) Okay, I’m gonna answer your last question first. Yes. I have been praised more than some authors of color or LGBT authors, because I’m a New York Times bestseller who has been writing for two decades.

My fifty-five published books have sold tens of millions of copies. They’ve been reprinted in dozens of languages, across the globe. When I write a book, it gets noticed. It gets reviewed. It gets read. (And I’m extremely grateful for that.) It gets discussed. And it frequently gets shat upon, too–don’t forget about that! That comes as a special, zesty side-dish to the whole millions-of-copies-sold thing. (I’m not complaining, just stating a fact.)

But sometimes my books get praised, and I do, too, because some people consider the topics I write about and the characters I include in my books to be “risky” in some way. I don’t see any of it as risky, but I do understand that I sometimes write about things that aren’t (or weren’t) often found in mainstream genre romances.

Like people of color and gay people. As main characters.

Just sit for a minute and think about how fucked up that is. That’s considered risky? In 2013?

Again, I don’t see it as risky–even if I might be criticized as a “white writer appropriating other cultures.” Especially since the implication is… what? That I should’ve left the romance genre as segregated and white-washed as I’d first found it…?!

Bottom line is: I write the books I *need* to write. Realistically, I know I’ve lost many conservative readers because of my inclusion of LGBT characters, but the idea of losing readers (especially *those* readers) doesn’t scare me. Because I know if I write from my heart, with the passion that burns in the center of my chest, I’ll keep picking up new readers.

And I know that I’ve changed many, many, *many* hearts and minds with Jules Cassidy alone. I’ve got the reader email to prove it.

So let’s talk about the first part of your question. Appropriating other cultures and identities.

Isn’t that, by definition, what we do as fiction writers? Appropriate other identities? I’ve been doing that for decades. How could that be wrong or bad?

The framing of this criticism has shades of those purely fictional movies where the main character writes a book and then everyone in town gets obsessed about figuring out which fictional character is based on them. There’s a myth in America that *that’s* what a novelist does.

But that’s absurd. We use our imagination and our empathy when we create characters. I’ve written fifty-five books, and I’ve never based a character on someone that I know.

And I’ve never, ever written a character based on myself. I am so freaking boring.

If I only write about what goes on in my house, I’ll never sell another book. And if I write about what I see out my window, well, that’s the same multicultural neighborhood that you see outside of yours–and it’s displayed pretty prominently in my books.

My books have always been about groups of people who work together to solve a problem. I show a reflection of that world outside my window by making that group diverse. And I do research and read and learn and empathize to understand all of the

different problems experienced by a character who doesn’t look like me or live in my house–regardless of their race, their religion, their sexual orientation, etc.

I’m a fiction writer and that’s what fiction writers do.

No, I’m not Alyssa Locke, an African American former Navy sharpshooter FBI agent, but I know what it’s like to walk a mile in her shoes–because I’m a fiction writer.

I’m also not a Navy SEAL–take your pick of the dozens of SEAL heroes I’ve written through the years. But I can imagine the drive and passion it took to go through BUD/S training–because I’m a fiction writer.

Research, willingness to learn, imagination, and empathy–all done with the goal of appropriating other identities.

(JS) I’ve always written diverse characters and I have many thoughts on this subject. The cultural-appropriation criticism hurts my feelings (white tears alert!) but I can’t put it in the same category as fiction writing in general. The issue here is privilege, not imagination. I think it’s more difficult for a person in a power group (white, straight, male) to understand the experiences of those outside their group. The power group’s perspective is widely available and valued, so we’re all familiar with it. This power differential, along with a history of oppression, is the reason men must be more careful writing women than women are writing men. The same goes for straights writing GLBT and whites writing people of color.

So what can we do? First, I think it’s important to acknowledge that gays and people of color are perfectly capable of writing their own stories. Second, I agree with everything you said about research and empathy. Third, I think we all have personal experiences that influence our writing choices. You might gravitate toward gay rights and gay characters because of your son. I try to include characters of color not just because it reflects my community, but because it reflects my own family. I can’t listen to people who say I shouldn’t write about relationships like the one I’m in, or characters who are like my husband and children. Writing white-only wouldn’t feel right to me.

Right after I got married, I showed an acquaintance my wedding photo. She said, “You’ll have beautiful children. I love mixed babies.” Years later, one of my close friends remarked that my daughter would grow up to be an “exotic beauty.”

Comments like this might not have registered before, but now they do. My family has shaped who I am as a person and helped me understand a broader perspective. My daughter doesn’t look foreign or exotic to me. She has brown hair and a freckled nose. I don’t know what to say about the mixed babies comment. It’s well-meant but sounds offensive. As if my children are zoo animals, different and Other.

So I have personal reasons for wanting to challenge these attitudes, and lack of diversity just makes me sad. I notice it, especially on book covers and movie posters. I’m glad to have options other than…Nicholas Sparks.

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(JS) What are you working on now?

(SB) I’m in heavy promotional mode for THE PERFECT WEDDING (mentioned above!), so I’ve been doing some blogging for The Huffington Post’s Gay Voices. (I’m loving that!)

I’ve got NIGHT SKY, that YA paranormal (set in the same world as BORN TO DARKNESS, my recent paranormal romance) that I co-wrote with my daughter Melanie. We’re doing revisions right now, and prepping to write the sequel, both for Sourcebooks. YA is new for me, so this is fun!

And I’ve just started writing a book called ALL OR NOTHING, which is the second installment in my “Reluctant Heroes” romantic suspense series. The first book, DO OR DIE drops on February 4, 2014, in hardcover and e-book from Ballantine Books, and in audio from AudioGo. “Reluctant Heroes” is a spin-off of my popular Troubleshooters series. It features quite a few cross-over characters, including Martell Griffin (from FORCE OF NATURE) and FBI agent Jules Cassidy’s team members Deb and Yashi.

DO OR DIE is essentially the start of a new story arc set in the TS world. Diehard lovers of the TS series will feel right at home, but new readers can pick it up and feel (rightly!) as if they’re at the beginning. Win/win!

(JS) I just finished Backwoods (Jun 2014) about a family camping trip gone wrong. I’m not sure what I’ll be working on next. I’m plotting another earthquake story, set during the same event as Aftershock, but in a different part of downtown San Diego. I’d also like to do a follow-up to Badlands.

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(JS) Read anything good lately?

(SB) Why, yes, I have. GLITTERLAND by Alexis Hall (mentioned above) is hands down my favorite romance novel of the year. (Possibly the decade!)

And lovers of paranormal suspense should look for UNDEAD CHAOS by Joshua Roots, from Carina Press. It’s a fun, fast-paced debut from an author-to-watch! I love Josh’s voice and can’t wait to see what he writes next. (Cool note: Josh is the former Marine helo pilot who was my contact in Iraq years ago, during a “Support our Troops” drive I held during one of my book tours. Awesome guy, awesome writer!)

And I recently read Virginia Kantra’s CAROLINA HOME and CAROLINA GIRL. I’m waiting impatiently for the third book in the trilogy, CAROLINA MAN. That one features a hero who’s active duty military. I can’t wait…

(JS) I enjoyed Carolina Girl as well. I recently read Burning, an excellent YA novel with a gypsy heroine, and Backwards to Oregon, a lesbian historical romance. I also really loved Close Enough to Touch by Victoria Dahl.

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Many thanks to Jill and Suzanne for a very thoughtful interview!

GIVEAWAY INFORMATION: For giveaway, we have an ARC of Suzanne Brockmann’s Do or Die (Feb. 2014) as well as 5 copies of Passion and Peril(Dec 2014). Please note that Passion and Peril contains Scenes of Passion, which is a reissue from Suzanne Brockmann, as well as Scenes of Peril which is a new release from Jill Sorenson. This giveaway is open from now until 11:59 pm on Sunday, November 10, 2013 and it’s open to the United States only.

If you would like to enter the giveaway, please comment below and indicate in your comment whether you are entering to win Do or Die, Passion and Peril, or both. If you’d like to discuss the interview without entering the contest, you can do that, too. Discussion is always welcome!

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SaraC
SaraC
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11/10/2013 6:01 pm

I’d love to be entered in both giveaways!

Laurie Logan
Laurie Logan
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11/10/2013 5:58 pm

Enjoyed the interview! Suzanne Brockmann books are always on my must read list. Please enter me for DO OR DIE as I’ve just picked up Passion and Peril (I can’t wait to dig into it!). Jill Sorenson is a new author for me and I’m looking forward to discovering her stories.

Thanks for the entry!

Renee
Renee
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11/10/2013 4:30 pm

Please enter me for both giveaways.

Gumbybird
Gumbybird
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11/10/2013 1:19 am

What a treat – I’ve been a huge fan of both authors for a long time! I’d be so thrilled to win either book. Please keep your powerful romantic suspense books coming! :)

Sonia Grgas
Sonia Grgas
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11/09/2013 4:10 pm

Enjoyed the interview. Please enter me for Do or Die, thanks!

Ducky
Ducky
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11/08/2013 10:14 pm

Thank you for the lovely interview! Please enter me for both giveaways.

Kathryn Riley
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Reply to  Ducky
11/09/2013 8:56 pm

I enjoyed the interview. Have been a fan of Suzanne’s for years, and look forward to reading Jill.

anon1001
anon1001
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11/08/2013 11:42 am

Please enter me for both giveaways!

connie
connie
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11/08/2013 10:42 am

Great interview! Would love to win Do Or Die – Thanks

Chris S
Chris S
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11/08/2013 8:30 am

I’ve been a long-time fan of both Jill and Suzanne and would like to be entered for the Do or Die ARC giveaway.

Maureen
Maureen
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11/08/2013 6:53 am

They are two great authors and I enjoyed the interview. Thanks for the giveaway!

hreader
hreader
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11/07/2013 11:15 pm

I have never read Brockmann but enjoy Sorenson. Would love to win Passion and Peril.

Joyce Mitchell
Joyce Mitchell
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11/07/2013 2:54 pm

Thanks for the great interview – I’d be happy to win either or both!

Maria Proctor
Maria Proctor
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11/07/2013 12:44 pm

Loved the fantastic interview! It would be great to win!

hapax
hapax
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11/07/2013 11:22 am

Terrific two part interview with two of my favorite authors, plus I love most of the books they recommended (and will get the rest)

I’d be delighted to win either ARC.

Natalie J. Damschroder
Natalie J. Damschroder
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11/07/2013 10:54 am

I’m in for Do or Die! :)

Great interview, Suz, as always. Your insights fascinate me.

I’ve been dying for the follow-up to BtoD, myself, and Jennifer’s question makes me sad because I didn’t know the “”series”” was pretty much dead. I’m excited about the YA and sharing you with my younger daughter, but would really love to know if there’s a chance for more in the adult arena!

susan
susan
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11/07/2013 10:36 am

I love both writers, and would love to have either book.

Jill Sorenson
Jill Sorenson
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11/07/2013 9:36 am

Just wanted to say thank you for all the lovely comments so far! And thanks again to Suz for a wonderful conversation.

It came up on Twitter that it’s a bit ironic for two white authors to be talking about diversity. I wanted to acknowledge that here, and to make it clear that I chose these questions because the topics are important to me. Also because Suz has been such an inspiration to me in the areas we discussed. She’s one of the reasons I’ve felt free to tackle subjects like border issues, and tell stories about people we don’t always see in romance.

The idea that I’m speaking for voices not my own and taking the space/platform of authors of color is something I struggle with. In retrospect, maybe I should have invited an author of color or GLBT author to join the interview. We mentioned several GLBT authors in the recs, but maybe no authors of color. I apologize for the exclusion.

Looking forward to more comments–even critical ones are fine! I’m here to learn and grow and discuss.

Thanks to AAR for hosting.

Kim
Kim
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11/07/2013 8:34 am

I love BOTH of these authors…Suzanne got me into romance suspense and Jill is one of the best out there carrying on the tradition. I’m looking forward to Do or Die.

Tiffany B
Tiffany B
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11/07/2013 6:43 am

I am entering to win Do or Die. I have Aftershock in my Kindle now. I plan to read it this weekend. This interview makes me excited.

Jennifer P
Jennifer P
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11/07/2013 6:15 am

I’d love both books as I’m a fan of both of your books! :) I got to say hi in person to Jill at RWA in Anaheim, but alas, Suz couldn’t make it…I was SO bummed! One question for Suz; I know BtD didn’t do as well as you had hoped but I really liked it. Is there any chance you would self-publish a follow-up so we could find out what happens?

Naureen
Naureen
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11/07/2013 6:01 am

This is fascinating- I especially enjoyed the responses to the diversity and appropriation question. As a minority, I sometimes find it difficult to read books or watch shows where there are no minorities because that isn’t realistic. Tell me the police force that has no people of color in the United States, etc. And for my generation, which is probably just a little older than the mainstream romance heroine tends to be, most of us live, work and play with a diverse group of people. Romance writers, like everyone else, NEED to reflect that. It isn’t appropriation, it’s life.

Jill Sorenson
Jill Sorenson
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Reply to  Naureen
11/07/2013 9:09 am

Thank you Naureen. :)

Stefani Vechery
Stefani Vechery
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11/07/2013 2:01 am

Would love to read Do or Die! I’ve been reading Suzanne’s books for YEARS! I still have the original Harlequin series! Admiral’s Bride is definitely my favorite from that bunch! Keep on writing!!

Diane Sallans
Diane Sallans
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11/07/2013 12:02 am

I’d love to get read both those books. I’ve read a lot of Suzanne’s books and hope to eventually check all of them off my list eventually. It’s been such a long time since I read the earlier Troubleshooter’s books that I’ll have to re-read them in a marathon.

The more people read about situations and people different from themselves the more comfortable they will be with differences and realize they are not so different after all.

Winnie P
Winnie P
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11/06/2013 11:46 pm

Loved this discussion! Please enter me in both drawings. Thanks.

MaryC
MaryC
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11/06/2013 10:30 pm

Thanks for the interview!

Would loveto win DO OR DIE.

Nancy
Nancy
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11/06/2013 9:53 pm

One of my favorite series is Faith & Fidelity by Tere Michaels. It’s about 2 guys who fall in life. One has been married and his wife died, and he’s left with 4 children. They meet at a retirement party for a mutual friend and develop a friendship which becomes more. There’s 3 or 4 books in the series, and it’s real life, what happens as you live life whether it’s straight or gay or whatever. I’m hoping she writes another soon.

Jill Sorenson
Jill Sorenson
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Reply to  Nancy
11/07/2013 9:12 am

I’ve heard good things about a book called Butterfly Tattoo, which features a bisexual hero. He falls for a woman after his male lover dies, I think.

Juanita
Juanita
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11/06/2013 9:40 pm

Would love either or both books. Love both authors!

Becky
Becky
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11/06/2013 9:32 pm

I would love to win both–can’t wait to read! I’m a huge fan of Suze’s books, and recently of Jill’s as well :)

Thought-provoking interview–thanks!

Nancy
Nancy
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11/06/2013 9:26 pm

I think I’ve read just about everything Suzanne has written. Jules is my most favorite book character. And the think the new series is fantastic!!! I can hardly wait to read the next one.

Karen W.
Karen W.
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11/06/2013 9:26 pm

I enjoy all of Suzanne’s books, and I’m DYING to read DO OR DIE!

Anita Wright
Anita Wright
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11/06/2013 9:01 pm

I love all of your books and characters but Jules and Robin are my absolute favorites…..more pretty please….

Jami Dutcher
Jami Dutcher
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11/06/2013 9:00 pm

I was very interested in the interview. I was raised to believe that all people are the same inside whether they are a different color, race, religion or sexual orientation. I am so grateful to my Dad for this.

I would LOVE to read Do or Die and am also interested in Passion and Peril

Mary Starykowicz
Mary Starykowicz
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11/06/2013 8:50 pm

Love all your books SB! Can’t wait for new book!

Lucia Goodwin
Lucia Goodwin
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11/06/2013 8:06 pm

Always enjoy Su

Gale S
Gale S
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11/06/2013 8:03 pm

Love your books, SB, and enjoy reading about all the gang. Do or Die for me, please, and thanks for the contest.

Lori Kupstas
Lori Kupstas
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11/06/2013 8:00 pm

I have read everything Suzanne has written and loved everyone of them. Can’t wait for Do or Die!

Nanee
Nanee
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11/06/2013 7:41 pm

Love all Brockmann’s books …have a lot of them so this book would go great with the rest

JulieR
JulieR
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11/06/2013 7:41 pm

Would love to win either of these. Thanks for the interview.

Lily
Lily
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11/06/2013 7:39 pm

Fingers crossed for a win for either title.

Sandi Thompson
Sandi Thompson
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11/06/2013 7:12 pm

I would love to win both of these! I am a die hard fan of Suzanne. I have yet to read Jill’s books, but I’m about to rectify that.i love Suzanne’s characters! I was so excited to read Harvard’s story. I love that all your heroes are not just white males. This world is diverse, and I love reading about different people. Reading is my favorite pastime.

Brenda Crider
Brenda Crider
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11/06/2013 7:02 pm

I would love to win either!!! Great interview….LOVE Suz’s books!!!!

Laura McElfresh
Laura McElfresh
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11/06/2013 5:52 pm

I have every one of your books. They are my go to books when I want a good read.

Kim in CA
Kim in CA
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11/06/2013 5:51 pm

I will read both. I would love to win an ARC of either!

Kelli Jo Calvert
Kelli Jo Calvert
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11/06/2013 5:16 pm

I would LOVE to read both!!!

Anne Sanchez
Anne Sanchez
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11/06/2013 4:54 pm

A good book is a good book. I know people who won’t read a book if the character has a beard. The story matters. The interaction between the characters matter.

Liza
Liza
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11/06/2013 4:45 pm

Recently got into Jill Sorenson with Aftershock- thought it was great and I am looking forward to reading the next in series. Have always enjoyed Brockmann’s Troubleshooter series.

Judy V.
Judy V.
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11/06/2013 4:43 pm

I love reading the stories written by Suzanne and wait for the next one and the next one eagerly. I have followed her comments through her newsletters and FB and they all echo or resonate quite well with me. Please enter me to win both. Thank you for the interview — loved both parts.

Becky
Becky
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11/06/2013 4:17 pm

I am a long-time Suzanne fan! I would be most happy with both!

cyclops8
cyclops8
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11/06/2013 4:05 pm

I would love to win a copy of “”Passion and Peril.”” Thanks for the great interview, Jill and Suzanne.

Anne
Anne
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11/06/2013 3:39 pm

I would love to enter for both! I have been a Suzanne Brockmann fan for years, and will now be checking out Jill Sorenson’s work! Great interview!